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Post by Deadly on Jun 30, 2015 21:59:26 GMT 1
So i talked to some players that after the wipe found some really good weps and items, but now after some updates and so on those players told me that they are not finding anything close to that. Staff told us that they didnt lower the loot, they only made tmaps higher. I cant believe that due to the fact i found good items in the beginning aswell, after killing high lvl mobs. This kind of low loot that u have at the moment isnt realistic. We shouldnt need to be hunting 8-9 hours a day cause most of us now are grown ups with jobs, girlfriends/wives/kids and so on. I think that all of us playing want to pvp and have some fun guildwars but with gear being so incredibly hard to get noone is daring to pvp, cause if u die and get looted it will take 2-3 months to get the same gear back. So whats the plan with the shard? The players hunting the most here is getting tired cause there is no point in hunting anymore! When will staff start to listen to the most important thing of the shard, the players. We are really getting tired of u guys being ignorant to our requests and wishes. U lower the loot without telling us, and dont try to lie thats a fact and u know it. In the beginning we could find swift deva/styg deva, now thats pretty much impossible.
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Post by Deadly on Jun 30, 2015 22:01:39 GMT 1
Btw after 2 months of hunting i havent found even ONE book. U remember zh chronicles? They had probably the best balanaced lootlevel ever, books isnt that good but needed for mages to lvl magery in a normal way. Not one book, just sick.
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Post by button on Jul 1, 2015 3:00:37 GMT 1
I agree. I don't think you should be getting elite gear dropping left right and center, but with the good gear being hard to find people are holding onto their moderate gear. You can't buy practically anything at the vendor shop, which means players need to make their own crafter, mage and ranger before they can do shit. This is ridiculous. I'd rather just make a crafter and a warrior but seems I need to make one of everything. Can't even get someone to sell me a full spellbook ffs.
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Post by darkjedi on Jul 1, 2015 4:54:14 GMT 1
indeed, the loot is very difficult.
killing more than 30 boss to get a vanq weapon is very annoying. hahahaha
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Post by lorth on Jul 1, 2015 7:55:38 GMT 1
When will staff start to listen to the most important thing of the shard, the players. +1, Deadly for president.
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Post by button on Jul 1, 2015 8:10:37 GMT 1
On the bright side they will never do an item wipe because there will not be any items to wipe
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Post by Deadly on Jul 1, 2015 9:31:24 GMT 1
Im counting low now, but ive killed 600-700 bossed and the best i found in weapons is A swift katana of vanq. I found the first after the wipe a lv6 necro thats prolly the best ive found. They are talking about tmaps but cartography is so incredibly hard to macro up cause making full world map isnt made higher (need 80 skill) and imo the only way to macro up cartography. But this is probably a dictatorship and not a democracy
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Post by ironclad on Jul 1, 2015 9:44:31 GMT 1
I wish staff would be up-front about this. If the loot has stayed consistent since the wipe, they should tell us and leave it up to us if we decide to believe them. I know I have asked them before and they have said that it has not been changed, but I didn't start hunting until recently. And while I have a couple of pretty good examples of items that dropped early on that we have not seen the likes of in the last month while killing WAY more boss mobs, I have way less insight into this than lorth, Deadly and the other ppl hunting much more.
Lowering the loot when the server has been up some time is probably the worst thing that can be in terms of longevity for the shard.
The most active players have already been hunting with decent loot levels and gotten good items. When the loot is lowered it takes the point out of hunting for them. Imagine playing any other RPG game, and after some time at max level you are forced to go back to play in lower level content. Sure you can find an item upgrade, but it's like 1 in a million and not worth your time. The active players will tire and go inactive and eventually quit.
The less active players who barely got to hunt with the higher loot levels don't have much to show for it. When the loot is lowered all their reasonable chances to keep up with the more active players are gone. These players will hunt as much as they can but never see any decent items, while they see the active players in town or at events rocking all their good stuff. These less active players will grow tired of feeling like they are wasting their time, which they probably don't have a lot of, on making barely any progress at all and eventually quit.
I think staff need to debunk these conspiracy theories or come clean about the lowered loot levels to keep people interested. It's such a stupid thing to have people upset about...
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Post by Deadly on Jul 1, 2015 10:25:23 GMT 1
I dont want to be a whiner, i just want staff to be honest about this stuff and tell us what they want with the shard?
So u gonna solve this issue by ignoring it?
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Post by Host Odin on Jul 1, 2015 12:49:45 GMT 1
do you guys remember that after the wipe we had to do a rollback of 18 hours ? we told you all that the loot was bugged and it was so high that every mobs droped a gm items and lvl 6 prots. so:
we did change the loot after the wipe yes. we where never shady about that. but after those 1st few days of tweaking the loot remained the same.
we did introduce lvl 5 maps with more loot and we even plan to bring out a lvl 6 tmap with even better loot then anything in game atm. also we made a raid boss that has lvl 6 tmap loot.
lvl 5 maps(and lvl6) have been increesed to GMWeapon 3% chanse GMArmor 5% Books 3%
this was only
GMWeapon 1% GMArmor 2% Books 1% at the start of the server.
remember that other people then the ones complaining are finding nice items. maybe you are not hunting the right stuff?
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Post by Deadly on Jul 1, 2015 13:02:06 GMT 1
I remember the rollback and 2 days after the rollback we found lv6 prots and some swift/styg vanqs, now we cant find anything it all. Ive found 1 gmitem after the rollback and it certainly isnt 1% chance, more like 0.03%, thats incredibly low. U really think that raidboss should be that high of a loot? The best players killing it and some random guys can loot that mob and get awesome items, not really fair at all. The guys who hunt the most on the shard and promoting this shard should be embraced not getting decreased loot. U fixed that it takes 141 to comprehend lv5 tmaps but after the wipe its almost impossible to macro cartography due to the fact that full world map takes 80 in skill to do, after 100 u barely increase ur skill at all.
Who cares about raidmobs? Those are funny to just play but to loot em and some random guy doing 0% dmg gets the loot is just... Annoying to say the least.
So u havent lowered the loot on balrogs/balrons/sds/behes/stomps and so on? I really doubt that cause i cant get one item, almost the same loot on bws and ufs, u really think after killing 20 balrogs its fun for us to see other players killing bws and getting the same loot? Thats just 100% annoying.
This shard was going to be pvpfriendly, im not saying u should make the loot much higher, but after 50-60 hours hunting and the best bow ive found is styg power im quite getting tired of hunting. Ive seen players with gmbow that they found from ONE balron?! Is that realistic?
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Post by ironclad on Jul 1, 2015 13:03:48 GMT 1
I don't think anyone was thinking about the first few hours when the loot was super high, that part was communicated by you guys and even though it was irritating for some it was the only option we you had. I don't have super much hunting experience here, but are the usual high level mobs supposed to be entry-level here? Like silver and golden dragons, Balrogs and balrons etc? Cause yeah, then we are hunting all the wrong mobs. Doesn't really explain why some ppl are so certain that they got better loot from the same move earlier though.
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Post by Deadly on Jul 1, 2015 13:07:48 GMT 1
Dont take this the wrong way, i like this shard and believe in it. I just want the playerbase to be steady and i dont want the players who playing a lot to quit. I wanna see those nice pvpduels outside of dungeons, color wars and so on. Those old days pvping was the most fun about uo and zuluhotel
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Post by lorth on Jul 1, 2015 14:48:56 GMT 1
Host Odin, the point is, 75% of your active players are here on this forum page at the moment asking you to raise the loot, wont you listen?
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Post by Deadly on Jul 1, 2015 15:06:39 GMT 1
Host Odin, the point is, 75% of your active players are here on this forum page at the moment asking you to raise the loot, wont you listen? He did listen now and going to raise with 2% which seems fair (thats quite A LOT). I got no idea what Odin means with highest lvl mobs though
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