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Post by button on Aug 30, 2015 19:22:51 GMT 1
So now youre saying there is a slight chance to get books drop on level 4 tmaps, where as before you said there was books 1% gm armor 2% gm wep 1%..... so before it was actually 0% and now its 1%? thanks for wasting my time, i did 100 lvl1 tmaps. ffs.
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Post by Tyr on Aug 30, 2015 19:30:57 GMT 1
if you were looking for books and we said they had a slight chance to drop on lvl 4 tmaps. why would you then do 100 lvl 1 tmaps which everyone has always know are useless to do.
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Post by button on Aug 30, 2015 19:42:59 GMT 1
i did 100 lvl 4 maps. the update says "added a small chanse of lvl 3 and 4 maps to get a book(e-n-sbook) realy realy small but still some" and prior to that i asked odin specifically what lvl4 maps chances were, to that of which he replied "Jul 24, 2015 at 9:07am Quote like Post Options Post by Host Odin on Jul 24, 2015 at 9:07am yes lvl 4 maps have: GMWeapon 1% chanse GMArmor 2% chanse Books 1% chanse"
So wtf. and remember i did level FOUR maps. not lvl1. my bad didnt realize i said lvl1 at first
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Post by Host Odin on Aug 30, 2015 19:55:07 GMT 1
1% is not 1% chanse to get a book but it's a 1% chanse to get into the books lootgroup, in that lootgroup there are chanses to get a book. so 1% is not the end number of chanse to get that book in the loot i did increes the numbers in total to get the chanse so getting in the group
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Post by ironclad on Aug 30, 2015 20:47:41 GMT 1
Yeah the chances in the book group are like 3% again. So when it's been said that something has "2% chance to drop books" it's actually 3% Of 2%.. So around 0.06% chance, which is equal to one in about 1700 maps. GL hunting for books If books have say 5% chance to drop from lv5 tmaps it's still around one in 600 maps approx, so we won't see any books soon.
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Post by Deadly on Aug 30, 2015 21:26:05 GMT 1
Ye, your math is way wrong Odin. You cant say that books got 4% to drop.... ^^
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Post by Host Odin on Aug 30, 2015 21:38:12 GMT 1
yeah thats why i posted here to explain how it's 4% to get into the book lootgroup
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Post by button on Aug 30, 2015 21:54:01 GMT 1
Is this what other zuluhotel had? I remember there actually being books for sale at vendors for 1 mil gold... the first time I got an ebook it was off of an orc brute. If only we had loot here
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Post by ironclad on Aug 30, 2015 22:13:57 GMT 1
My guild found 3 ebooks on dreams, and we only hunted there for a few weeks. Here we have found 0 in months and we have hunted A LOT more here, and way longer too,to give some perspective. I don't think a single book on this shard has been found by a player that is not a staff mortal or a friend of staff tbh. Except Archaxe who found one right after the item wipe from a behemoth but they have since been nerfed to not drop books at all (until very recently when they were given a chance around 0.02% I believe, yes that's 5k behemoths for one book).
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Post by Deadly on Aug 31, 2015 16:29:59 GMT 1
Unfortunately this shard will die now. Im one of the few members who hunts and I hunt A LOT. AND THE LOOT IS CRAP HERE, YOU CANT FIND ANYTHING AT ALL, the 4% talk is like all wrong... Its 0.004%... "I dont want a warshard"... Seriously its not a warshard cause some of the guys got good items. Im tired of this, I cant find any good weaps or nothing. I did today like 15 high end bosses, alot of Adept/Master items and One Spear of Vanq (Odin found a bug that only power weaps can drop he says).... So i found a spear of vanq so i guess i diced the right one and that the spear was an awesome spear in that bug.. This shard is doomed to fail due to the fact that we who are hunting isnt getting ANYTHING for it... The only ones like Ironclad says who got gmweaps and all the books is either friends of staff or old staffmortals, this is really fucked up....
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Post by qarkofminoc on Aug 31, 2015 17:02:52 GMT 1
this is pol, lots of bugs and fucked up scripts. just because someone has found a good item or what not doesn't automatically mean anyone cheated lol that is always the first thing someone says on an online game haha i don't doubt you deadly but 15 high end bosses? which ones and where are they so i can go kill them also and see what i get
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Post by Deadly on Aug 31, 2015 18:07:26 GMT 1
this is pol, lots of bugs and fucked up scripts. just because someone has found a good item or what not doesn't automatically mean anyone cheated lol that is always the first thing someone says on an online game haha i don't doubt you deadly but 15 high end bosses? which ones and where are they so i can go kill them also and see what i get Man ive done over 60 lv6 tmaps and approx 150 lv5 tmap... That was just an example. Its not pol, its this shard and someone who wants the loot to be impossible. I got proof of the gear of those guys im talking about, ive never seen this kind of loot on any other zh polserver before so dont give me that attitude man, i know what im talking about. Ive been hunting like 8 hours a day for 3 weeks. Now when im not gonna have the time to hunt that much anymore what items do u think i will find? Only shit and so will u if u dont got time to be online 24/7. The problem is not pol, its one persons mind who dont understand how to do a proper and stable playerbased shard. Its 2015, not 1999.
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Post by ironclad on Aug 31, 2015 20:31:21 GMT 1
Noone said anything about cheating. We stated the fact that staff mortals or their friends are the only ones that have certain items, you drew the conclusion yourself wich just supports our point: that something is really strange about the loot and items of some characters.
I don't care what staff do with their characters as long as they don't give themselves an advantage and then interfere with regular players by competing for spawns or even worse in PvP. Go play around in green acres, but stay there, and if you hang around in town, have a [STAFF] guild or something so that players don't take their items for legit. When players see characters wielding several different GM weapons and casting earth magic they, think those items are actually obtainable with reasonable effort. But the truth is they will find a book in every ~5k boss kill, and I assume that GM wepons drop almost as rarely, we have found 1 or 2, but utterly useless 2-hands, while staff mortals have had the best uber weapons for months.
People are getting tired of feeling like gearing up a character on ZH Valhalla feeling like a second job. I think only button and Deadly are hunting somwhat actively now and I think both will quit in a very near future.
If the loot is ever changed, you should be open with what you change. If you state that something has a "2% chance to drop books", people will invest looong hours into farming it, when they later learn it was actually 2% OF 2% (0.02%) they will be, very understandibly, furious...
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Post by button on Aug 31, 2015 20:59:06 GMT 1
ive basically put a hold on hunting for a few reasons, firstly im pretty busy irl, which is funny because it ties in quite nicely to me pretty much giving up on hunting in game due to the low loot dropping. I can't bitch as much as deadly, but 100 lvl4 tmaps and one gm gloves is all i have to show for it.... keep in mind you need the gear(high castrate ele fury wep +magery) or a mage and another char to kill all the spawns from lvl4, so can be quite time consuming if you're lvl3 mage/ranger like me. Also losing my gear didnt help too much, but i pretty much have another set ready to go whenever i feel like getting back at hunting... I've killed probably 100 end level bosses and have 1 gm armor to show for it... Kind of feel like youre wasting your time here.
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Post by qarkofminoc on Aug 31, 2015 22:31:56 GMT 1
damn, yeah i understand the percentages and just saying 2% (or whatever) is a little misleading. because it is correct that it would be 2% to even get into the books section (or whatever section you're gunning for) then its 2% there, so yeah 0.02%.. i should start hunting so i can feel what you guys are because i have only been macroing for like two months working on just skill gain feel like i am getting no where myself. i have begged for almost two months starting at 50 skill and have been almost 24/7 since i started begging and i am only at 108. almost two whole months 24/7 of one skill and i didn't even gain 60 points! lol and yes i have moved from npc to npc for the gains. i have ran a LARGE portion of the maps dead just so i can see where things spawn and where i can find certain npcs, monsters, tamables etc and my only question is what and how are you guys hunting? I'd be insta dead just walking in some places
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